Move a stream chat to a group server

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I’m relatively new to Twitch chat, both from a user and a developer point of view, and I’m trying to understand whispers and how they work with the different types of servers (ie group, event, normal). Everything I’ve read says that I won’t be able to send/receive whispers unless I’m on a group chat server. But my stream’s default chat channel isn’t on a group server, as far as I can tell. Can I move it to one?

Also, I get that event servers are for high-traffic chat rooms, but what is the purpose of group servers vs normal servers?

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Group chat servers are used for group chats, accessible from the icon on the top left corner of the chat. Channel chats don’t use group chat servers.

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So it is just that whispers are not accessible to third-party apps from non-group servers?

What types of things are group chat rooms generally used for?

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group chats were originally for creating separate groups to chat in. Now the same servers host the whisper functionality. Get one from http://tmi.twitch.tv/servers?cluster=group

There is nothing channel specific about them, since whispers are peer-to-peer communication.

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I also found the more general group chat page here: http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1500268-how-group-chat-works

So @livewhiletrue, you are saying if I connect to a chat server via IRC, make the correct CAP REQ, then I should hear any whispers sent to my user? I will go try that now…

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Yes, that did work.

So, in summary:
In order for my bot to hear whispers directed at it, it needs to connect to a group chat server.
In order for my bot to hear from a stream’s channel, it needs to connect to a normal (or event) server.

Thanks!

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Whispers weren’t implemented by the time I developed bots so I am not sure if you actually need to be connected to a group server to recieve whispers, but I do know that you need it to be able to send them. Better safe than sorry, I guess.

also, don’t confuse group chat servers with group chat rooms, they are different things.

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Interesting, so if you create a group chat room, how would you connect via IRC? or can you?

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This might help: https://blog.bashtech.net/twitch-group-chat-irc/

BTW you do need to be connected to the group chat to receive whispers.

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You don’t actually have to create a group chat room in order to use whispers. You just need to:

  • Connect to one of the group chat servers

  • Issue the raw command CAP REQ :twitch.tv/commands to let the server know you want to receive data besides PRIVMSGs

  • Listen for the WHISPER commands. Most clients/libraries that are not specifically designed for Twitch will need to be modified to support this command so I recommend watching the raw commands coming in over your connection to see how it needs to be parsed.

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